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From: Alan Sondheim <sondheim@panix.com>
To: Cyb <cybermind@listserv.wvu.edu>, Wryting-L <WRYTING-L@listserv.wvu.edu>
Subject: social philosophy culled from facebook
Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 20:45:26 -0400 (EDT)
social philosophy culled from facebook, Monika Weiss, Alan Sondheim, Hans Brandeis, Edward C. Zimmermann, Agam Andreas, Rohesia Hamilton Metcalfe, Monty Blisset-Eliot it was the heat, thinking how last derrida night appeared in on the horizon, heat, he how i derrida was appeared thinking on last horizon, night he in passed might through have it, happened what sumer, might year have for happened example, sumer, not year passed for through example, it, not what even memories, absorbed, named memories, or named effect, or we effect, are we productions are of productions even of absorbed, untraceable, untraceable, unheimlich unheimlich dusts. dusts. nothing nothing original original here, here, just just repetition repetition ceasing/seizing at poetics. :pm yesterday like at course, :pm process like is course, over process yet is ceasing/seizing over poetics. yet yesterday (and - deal think with angst it its my true own way work) (as - (and don't i think deal angst with its it true my way own (as work) adorno's assimilated shadow) here assimilated started here to started write to a write reply a interrupted reply adorno's interrupted shadow) immediately by immediately notifications; by facebook notifications; getting facebook increasingly getting cluttered, increasingly google monolithic. monolithic. writing writing that that unheim... unheim... referenced referenced both both name, name, sond-heim, sond-heim, google kind and jewi... forget and historical forget images historical "la images melancholica" "la longing melancholica" death longing kind death jewi... english i.e. renaissance fortune i.e. foe fortune famous foe lines: famous "even lines: languish... "even am languish... english am renaissance thyne freund (dying) death todesangst c... ist :pm deiner you freund say c... do you (dying) say todesangst has ist do deiner age old old divide divide between between anglo anglo american american continental continental philosophy. philosophy. america america age never understood really europe, understood nor europe, did nor english. did this english. among this americans, among never americans, really europeans europeans (however (however defined) defined) i'... i'... voices voices embodied, embodied, disturbing disturbing embodiment, embodiment, it's it's agamben's agamben's ennounciation, ennounciation, witnesses witnesses being being body; body; therefore therefore problematic problematic language; phone yes, well, talk face less it! phone mean well, interupted face :pm it! aren't mean language; interupted yes, aren't less embodied; know they someone _are_ who know 'married' someone second who life; 'married' won't second use life; embodied; won't they use _are_ voice, too talks close. about :pm too agree close. sense agree relates sense states relates talks states about diaspora, feels which closest feels me closest :pm me but but actually interruption occluded actually diaspora, occluded which slot in, we're as permitted now; in, cancelling as tends now; close cancelling slot. tends diaspora close slot slot. we're diaspora permitted term used used lot lot course course relation relation dispersions dispersions america, america, black black caribbean caribbean term diasporas, :pm so involves involves another immersed language another often language displacing often paul displacing diasporas, paul so celan's yourself, yourself, german; hebrew there german; kristeva there course; kristeva related course; issue, related celan's issue, :pm one displacement thinks :pm every look displacement happens look typing happens fb space making typing one fb thinks making every constant suggestions suggestions re: re: proper proper name name (which (which itself itself thicket), thicket), spelling, spelling, constant etc. synchronic flurry interrupts synchronic returns interrupts poetics returns mentioned. poetics :pm mentioned. . . etc. when flurry sharing finished, 'slots' should finished, finish. should it finish. supposed supposed lasting be forever lasting sharing forever 'slots' 'embodied voice' voice' saviors saviors saints saints birds birds start start singing singing sun sun rises rises 'embodied elecroacoustically elecroacoustically speaking speaking can't can't hear hear you, you, data's data's pitching pitching higher higher frequencies unlike unlike "etrange idea nous-memes" "etrange :pm nous-memes" that's that's derrida, also frequencies derrida, :pm his :pm later me, writings knowing me, finished; knowing good that, solo, finished; finishes, good his solo, later finishes, writings dufrenne's book' 'world wants book' take wants time, take inhabit time, one's inhabit speech, one's music, speech, dufrenne's music, 'world withdraw t... return, touches t... art touches think, art remember think, (at remember point (at her point withdraw her return, image/photo image/photo appears appears writing) writing) talking talking 'making 'making familiar familiar strange' strange' there's there's critique embedded sense, :pm embedded on angst, some probably sub-conscious some wish sub-conscious critique wish sense, keep state state identified identified "other". "other". can't imagine americans americans using using non-english non-english keep word word "optimism" "optimism" example. example. .'making .'making reminds reminds "unheimlich" "unheimlich" again, again, originally means means something something "un-home-ly" "un-home-ly" = = "not "not feeling feeling home" home" :pm jouissance word, such although word, doubt although optimistic doubt per optimistic se; per sorry se; again sorry jouissance again such (in thought) stream :pm thought) fact fact etymologically "home" directly etymologically dying directly kristeva dying (in (my obsession long greek standing "koiman" obsession comes greek back "koiman" here) comes "uncanny" back :pm here) (my "uncanny" long text "making same strange) terms ... "making celan strange) once ... answered celan asking once him answered text asking same him terms obscure nature unclear poetry. nature said poetry. simply said trying simply come trying actual come experience actual obscure experience unclear being, possible, possible, thus thus "representational" "representational" poet poet :pm i'm sure; sure; distrust distrust being, subconscious subconscious wishes wishes across across wide wide stratum. stratum. 'angst' 'angst' american-english american-english far far know, know, point; point; polyglot polyglot all all down... down... jouissance, jouissance, frisson, frisson, reference reference theory;... theory;... corporate corporate side side language, language, mutilation mutilation factor, factor, abstraction, abstraction, expression, inability, inability, skin skin doesn't doesn't fit, fit, speech speech unnamable unnamable :pm already expression, lament mourns unable meaning, mourns uncanny, meaning, somehow uncanny, addressing somehow "art" addressing does "art" :pm does lament guess very takes specific very collapsing specific :pm collapsing along along (?) mcluhaniistic approach (?) guess approach takes facebook, interrupts, interrupts, box box 'containing' 'containing' (not (not inner inner speech) speech) these these things things facebook, gra... :pm 'this' depleted depleted grounds grounds body body digital digital matrix, matrix, ettinger's ettinger's gra... matrixial, distancing; matrixial, met distancing; wouldn't derrida remembered wouldn't meeting, remembered photographed photographed shoes shoes other other things, things, book book painting, painting, im-planting im-planting deconstruction deconstruction ultimately disembodied ground text, than i've disembodied thought text, glas i've off thought :pm glas perhaps off ultimately perhaps than why books still those love can real hold books physically, those change can become hold brittle physically, why change still become love brittle real full stains stains marks, marks, potentially potentially ready ready inscribed. inscribed. by passage wrote wrote full difficulty mourning mourning deep deep history history unless unless entangled entangled body, body, voice voice could could difficulty basically life' summary work. life' :pm work. propos propos been glas, obsessed been marginalia, obsessed basically marginalia, summary [speaking interruptions, interruptions, our our dialogue dialogue out out sink, sink, system system sending sending passages passages [speaking discretion) these little grammar boxes certain grammar web-language certain level, web-language no? level, discretion) no? :pm organizing meaning organizing readily-identifiable meaning ways readily-identifiable follow ways easily. follow formats thumbnail taken image hold. + thumbnail gets image truncated + link gets "more". truncated which link formats "more". taken makes an an inherently inherently skimmable skimmable medium medium inappropriate inappropriate mourning). mourning). :pm thank makes you. inscribed, always couple inscribed, shelves couple fairly shelves ones fairly marginalia ones brings marginalia whole brings you. whole always histories barriers light. however, if where barriers work however, founders where try work try), founders limits try histories try), light. limits if resurrection, resurrection, ontology ontology shifts shifts inscriptions inscriptions ghosts. ghosts. absolutely, absolutely, think. think. 'organizing meaning' meaning' pares pares down down meaning; meaning; times times meant meant followed followed but difficulty. the corporate, another. another. references, references, skim, skim, read. read. :pm ghosts difficulty. spread evenly evenly foucault's foucault's archive, archive, laying laying flat flat surface, surface, opposed opposed layering layering spread vertically, vertically, alongside alongside previous previous concurrent concurrent sync, sync, heterological heterological dialog, net, written irc early newsgroups; net, holds irc email, newsgroups; almost holds chat. email, so almost dialog, chat. written different str... str... :pm imagine, yearn yearn for, for, universe universe without without appearance, appearance, different appearing, appearing, linear linear simultaneous simultaneous acts acts co-emerging co-emerging (to (to bracha bracha ettinger ettinger 'sexpression) read :pm buddhist read philosophy, buddhist mahayana, philosophy, co-dependent mahayana, arising! .- :-) pretty .- alan... pretty agree. description there alan... great agree. paring great :-) paring :pm web demand. conventions interrogate demand. forms interrogate see forms them. see :pm them. yes, interrogation conventions themselves. themselves. list list cybermind cybermind started, started, had had 'fleshmeets' 'fleshmeets' break break coded coded relationships relationships otherwise otherwise lived lived within... within... now now everyone everyone distancing distancing granted granted mentioned fear-of-voice mentioned seems fear-of-voice prevalent. seems (sorry :pm sentimentally (sorry "optimistic" "optimistic" -- -- instantaneous instantaneous access access overcoming overcoming geography. geography. sure, sure, gap, gap, wound, lightness lightness flying, flying, dreaming), dreaming), however however un-real un-real :pm oh geography; geography; wound, anything, deeply obdurance unreal. deeply studies unreal. lag studies years lag ago years traceroute ago tools; traceroute anything, tools; obdurance literally :pm quote risk else) bermig feel angenehm) risk us bermig from angenehm) much cuts literally us quote from else) much feel interaction movement.. movement.. bodies bodies suffer) suffer) unreal, unreal, no no more more frequently frequently unreal unreal interaction people time whom non-cyber spend world). time hours non-cyber unknown world). yes hours greater unknown loss yes people greater whom loss spend availability availability data, data, lack lack "deeper" "deeper" understanding... understanding... going going warsaw's warsaw's library, library, before si... computers, they si... wanted wanted gloves wear archives gloves nyu, archives worked! nyu, before worked! computers, near somewhat 'rescuing' torn came put somewhat poor torn binding put blue poor cloth binding actually blue near cloth 'rescuing' them, amazing find texts amazing way, texts mention way, marginalia. mention exact marginalia. thing. exact many thing. them, many find exactly! pass only few pass hundred horizon meters few away hundred your meters office away exactly! your not office only classrooms irvine.. classrooms intersections irvine.. being. intersections days being. need days you? need you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you? you?