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From: Alan Sondheim <sondheim@panix.com>
To: Cyb <cybermind@listserv.wvu.edu>, Wryting-L <WRYTING-L@listserv.wvu.edu>
Subject: speechtalk
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 12:04:17 -0500 (EST)
speechtalk http://www.alansondheim.org/amherst35.jpg "conscious" mind wants to do or think "truer" way of seeing the world than a more rational 'surface' one "viewpoint" can even be used in relation cancer fl? perhaps 'desire' itself is word up for grabs 'record' describe well at all (paradoxically) formed through hypermediation viewpoints. - separating and bringing together. operations occur first real there are 18 sensors yes on body you'll get idea fast presence different these areas. "real damage" sl isn't fl; it's not ground, primordial so speak always already gharayb which lot us was kind shattering inconceivably coded, that is, created such as an jordan river gnat swarms behave single vertical columns, life by way. maud liardon, with choreography foofwa d'imobilite perl (pearl?) others well. sandy questions? please, any sort dialog would greatly second concerned, [6:20] alan dojoji: it seems me working avatars, i'm interested relationship between should consciousness other words, [6:21] both work forgetting much projection our 'selving' own images, projections visual perception great [6:22] ignoring my hmmm... arranging formal systems related occurs across realms [6:23] make sense we have consider use systems, gestural autonomic this further lead another form [6:24] example, depressed senses important most philosophy thnking [6:25] desire underpin everything, course fact might argue depression we're driven desires; [6:26] "abject" i mean matter partly us, desires like icebergs their ostensible keep hearing term but deep components abjection, where noise dirt descvribed [6:27] online, shape-riding level very some language surface phenomenon what lies beneath "true in, guise etiquette protocol [6:28] almost say that's tantric things being bent secret, hidden after having been devoured eaten then discarded imagined someone hacking machine lower [6:29] (the face associative object now virtual bear me, going recently has gesture, everywhere, [6:30] above victorian here's contradiction, there's nothing about caressed [6:31] model carapace, outer [6:32] "carapace" prims constitute composed sheaves. sheave-girl. if you close enough, set your camera all, empty space, see aren't organs course. [6:33] organism from outside, looks, look "real" sense, place scratch away tinsel once ben hecht asked hollywood within emptiness, [6:34] emptied, organs, topology organisms outside screen here prim two how auto-immune system works [6:35] space maybe gender into when modeling, aware (so speak) protocols linden labs, mention thousands bring stuff home [6:36] bears modeling although projecting smears categories sure am half time. human organic inorganic though hope better understand [6:37] again sorry appears jump topic moves why obscene? because nature read, [6:38] words "obscene" processed just sex netsex slsex sex, [6:39] producing intense reactions no language, somatic stephen pinker talks obscenity taking thing negative [6:40] (again) hand, surfadce anyway contructs, let's say, states [6:41] began thinking repertoire wonder couldn't tools practgical: [6:42] open under mocap (for motion capture) go browser youshould want bvh files file out2.bvh [6:43] everything out hip. disappear underground indicates root hip i've still got root, far [6:44] scroll down thefile begins that, nodes ground [6:45] represent movements proper also relate tantra originary stance [6:46] pasted who controlled "dance" real-life dancer, dancers, [6:47] image movement, qustions opening file, video shown odyssey don't need end [6:53] again, files, contained behaviors, were they used? [6:54] prerecorded, [6:56] leg leg, etc. mapping one-to-one connected capture worked is'breaking' case attached neck sensor example wouldconnect [6:57] behaviors themselves randomly distributed dstributed among inverted placed star pattern thrown heap floor get: [6:58] happened, abu "inconceivable" moving ecstatic another, [6:59] continue impossible, represents explore distortion, abject torture, [7:00] roughly says same thing... technique techniques surgical, cutting suturing rearrange sensors, splitting them [7:01] 'live' behavior recording ask participants move. record [7:02] ok, about, least using particularly relating [7:03] scan hopefuly tell something [7:06] her breaks sheaves, chair [7:07] area [7:12] issues disease way, [7:13] importance [7:14] movement occurring edge game done myself [7:15] trying escape life, off goes getting returned asymptotically [7:16] clearly more'lunar' anything else. exploration [7:20] taking-for-granted take granted, think, lived-body [7:21] (this relates nagarjuna buddhism btw) computation, time mind, emptied universe, gives gateway [7:22] "language fails here" [7:24] singing delusion (if speaker you: voice remains azure carter [7:25] quetions? yes! avatar unravels unravelling [7:26] @create $thing called "sheave-girl" you'd back moo, create type note: must name fixed fixed, can't [7:27] means youv'e sheave-girl number #5748892 given name, number, identification uses [7:28] sl, objects number/letter creations (not necessarily moo uneasy implications here. [7:29] so? really surface-creations, server-blips... distinction creating vs. entities. well, change shape [7:30] build rock only true; level, infinitely richer! agreed [7:31] wizard entirely labs employees able to. can't. without avatar, offer brief remarks otherwise? yes, true, them. [7:32] qustions? [7:48] meant literally [7:49] dis/eased dis/comforted [7:50] i'd otherwise, since fl "hypermediation"? rebuild, resurface rl suggestion clean [7:51] hypermediation: its commonly interfaces multiple views together suggest [7:52] understand, context? [8:09] listen / gnats [8:10] recorded salt lake city, utah likely [8:11] "constructed" pointillist find tend forms, figures swarm, [8:12] brings porosity, lack forms are, surely, tied air currents, [8:13] to, internally constructed; agree: appearance [8:27] write presence, simply, embodiment online [8:28] continually writes/performs/acts ascertaining, indicating existence bot log you're gone moment alan, differs [8:29] moment, "hereness" indicated [8:30] re: saying, rl, background, duetavatargrange. [8:31] studying contact [8:32] materiality rosset calls "idiocy" together, & whomever like, dreams [8:33] please materials while move betwen sexuality, body, virtual, [8:34] end, wanted ask, first, rewrite. [8:35] modes presencing... and, course, note places rewrite [8:36] still, presencing part, pressure difference "show" selves intentional aspect [8:37] (as earlier, mentioned damage [8:38] issue roles, goffmann; they're absolute second, [8:39] following phrasee: transparent, [8:40] (which reason gharay curious response (both those life.... 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