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From: Alan Sondheim <sondheim@panix.com>
To: Cyb <cybermind@listserv.wvu.edu>, Wryting-L <WRYTING-L@listserv.wvu.edu>
Subject: What I Did and Said
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 21:39:39 -0400 (EDT)
What I Did and Said http://www.alansondheim.org/TEST9.GIF This is fascinating - I'm always curious how many of No problem - let me know when to start hello :: where are we now? :: here we are then... :: now we are one :: one :: going out and coming back in - :: left the session :: joined the session :: left the session :: joined the session :: displayed the following Some of them are working! I've been playing around But Im not in bold now -are you? There's no bold at This is wonderfully strange... :: Kate - you're bold? :: Hi everyone! :: Must be the diluted blood... :: Well, I've got the URL up - yes, it's difficult, you I'll try and be spare. :: Wow! Stumbling over Brooklyn - :: Ok I'm ready whenever anyone else is - Can you scroll the text I've put up? It's just the first file in the Internet Text, which Ok, thanks :: Why don't you start with questions and we'll see where Hi - :: Yes of course :: It's odd because those seem like different operations I can't not work :: Too much neurosis on this end - which then becomes Well, what gets rid of the "I self Me" - which is the protocols etc. - :: I'm not sure - I do all my writing online - possibly god no :: the protocols - coding - :: I'm not struggling with that. :: It's a hideous anti-semitic tract - The protocols reference code and the breakdown of it's amazing I could stop there - :: and it's between code and its breakdown that I'm which is partly interpretable in a classical sense She disappeared a while ago; I didn't want to write The space-between code - what underlies writing here I started calling this 'codework' which has taken on a So the subtext so to speak ruptures the text which As if the bones of the tomb of writing were made - as if the bones had some sort of presence in the So that the writing in a way is 'lurid' - cutting As in the 'Anita Berber' pieces that I've put up at Mistakes in print, and in the traditional Tanach, five displayed There's the "skeleton" of a piece of writing - which which gives you a huge list of synonyms. The first Which is a kind of overflowing of synonyms, burying and there's a parallel with Berber's life here, at - a surplus which goes nowhere. :: If you click on the link you might get the .mp file How so? :: This isn't my 'best' tabla work, but I thought it I wonder what happened; I'm always afraid of clicking No problem :: The first bit - the short bit - is a There are better tabla pieces here! I think something Think of the rest as both an expansion and a in so many directions that nothing It a strange interface with a mysterious life of its two bits in that sentence will get you a quarter (bad yes, but you might want to ask away here? When I enter displayed the following You ask about code poetry? :: There are so many terms - I mentioned 'codework' which just about close everything down in a classical If you think of say Lautreamont - what he was doing But if had to attent a conference on his own work, What I've put up here - and you do have to shuttle There's also a few code snippets (most of which I've I tend to write in Unix or Linux - I've been doing which allows me to use all sorts of sophisticated text Just briefly - the first is Normal, then 'Back" takes Rev reverses everything :: Tac reverses the line order :: tr A-Z a-z just gets rid of the capitals transposition does group substitutions substitution is simpler but similar Pig-Latin is a program that comes w/ linux and turns Punched Cards is another linux program that turns Eliminate which was written by Florian Cramer for me so that "the dog and the cat" becomes "the dog and Elimx is one I wrote from Florian's that makes a mess Cramer made a program that eliminates duplicate The program is above. It counts different words for The "mathesis" program I love - Jim Reith wrote it for like a photoshop filter. :: You can enter a mathematical function (the very first GoogleScrape - is just using the Google program (API It's just a more sophisticated way of using google Then there's the "Simple perl program results" - which Yes of course, that would be a lot better than this Yes to both, that was also a while ago. Shinto Not so much; I've been very moved by Red Pine's because I can't get myself "around it" - which is On the other hand, I could never 'submit' to Zen or to Well, that's complex. I don't have a traditional and am alienated by, say, Mishima, by whale-hunting, The one book that stays with me, now, is the Flower These are openings for me, and the sutra is By the way (while waiting) the Yipes! text is made And the "Using Chat" was made by recording one of ok :: Ok - but they're not appearing here - One second :: Ah I see - for me in relation to D Turner's second about Youtube and so forth - the work skitters among I also work with dancers in Geneva, Switzerland, and Yes, the meaning shifts in each context, but the Edting in relation to suprlus - that depends on what but I prefer also to work on an idea, get through with I'm up to Chrstine? :: Code and text interact for me; sometimes the structure When I'm working with software (I work at the Virtual to some sort of limit - seeing what happens at the I work in both darknet and a/v - the presentation in Text-based work allows me to think the I write a great deal of theory, and it's so easy to Sometimes it matters, most of the time it doesn't - if whether or not one understands it fully. There are I did some work in visual basic (you can download the Exactly like lace, and just as It makes it seem as if the world is both obdurate, I think of Jacques Lacan in this regard - reading his But of course I may be fooling myself. There are also political concerns here - trying to Which effects in the films? And you should sometime There are avatars that are constructed from motion and images from laser scanning equipment (big I'm not sure which this is! I think that's the The Wolf piece - that's using motion capture and The bones of the wolf come through. Poser is a d mannequin modeling program. Yes, Bellmer fascinates me, but thenI worry - in my It's separate, it's faster than Max I think - the A lot of teen-age boys make 'ideal' girlfriends with I think my work walks an edge of being lurid and I do think at least in the US these images are the There was a book years ago which talked about Jewish culture as breaking down the 'etiquette' of middle or for example Freud scraping at the psyche, Marx at Thank you! :: And these people were - again perhaps like codework partially-assimilated Jews, but not 'really' Einstein as well. :: This is obviously a gross over-simplification but it You have the same thing, say, in the blues, with Ok - :: Whew. I'm not sure something else opened up here, When I'm surprised by the result, it's a success, no when I know 'what I'm doing' - it may well be a I coined the term 'defuge' to reference those moments for example when you try to read a novel several and the writing itself becomes distasteful, The same thing happens with pornography, but that's - if pornography were 'ideal' - one image would do it In sports it's another related issue - one wants one's So there's a kind of disinvestment at work here, and ?? Such as what? :: Yes, lots of time. :: times :: I think it depends. I haven't been thrown out of I also cross-post a lot which bothers The sexual content of some of the work bothers And at my end I have little patience for what I think I don't know, some tame, some not tame - it depends on AI? It's only a matter of time... :: "don't I think" - I'm not sure where this typo was No problem - :: I'll be on the board, except for Tuesday/Wednesday, With my work? Just to be able to keep doing it. And I'm terrible at programming, okay with borrowing or I want to explore more 'body-avatar' issues in Second I feel exactly the same way- :: for me, at least the aesthetics of Well, she may return, but there are other things - The 'parables' (they're in the book .echo) I don't thin I need an editor but I might have The dancers are like live avatars yes - In fact some of the work they do is imitating avatars When you getto something like the Wolf, How to who feel about? :: I have no dance background, but I work with a dancer That's his choreography from the avatar tapes We tend to inspire each other. I can't do much I agree re: Butoh, I haven't, but would like to work The Cunningham technique is very complex, so I can Or I'm the material for the dancers; it's really back At times I'm not sure who is doing what with whom or I'll be on Joanna. - :: I can stay for a few more minutes if there are any Oh someone asked why the webpage is a That's the simplest way I can present the materials; The Trace materials are different - they were done Good night! - :: Take care - :: There are six left; before I leave, are there any down to two! :: I'll sign out then and thank you and thank you Yes :: No problem; I'm about to sign out unless there's a I'll be on the discussion board later this Kate, please send the recording if you Well, if there's anything else... :: Oh, good :: Thanks - :: Thank you as well - I'm constantly worrying about the - bye - :: left the session :: joined the session :: left the session :: Thanks, Alan